# ThinLinc 4.13.0 Beta

**URL:** <https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213>\
**Category:** Community Support\
**Tags:** python, release, beta, thinlinc\
**Created:** [5 August 2021 13:51 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213 "2021-08-05T13:51:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1

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**Author:** ![samuel](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/samuel/32/335_2.png) [@samuel](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/samuel)\
**Post date:** [5 August 2021 13:51 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/1 "2021-08-05T13:51:37Z")

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The upcoming release of ThinLinc is almost done and will include more than 120 enhancements and fixes. The most prominent changes are:

- The ThinLinc server has been updated to use Python 3 and GTK+ 3 in  
order to be more compatible with the latest distributions and with  
future distributions. Distributions where Python 3 is not available  
are no longer supported by this or future versions of ThinLinc.

- Some stability issues with Kerberos on Windows have been fixed and the  
ThinLinc client should now work reliably with Kerberos on all  
platforms.

Ahead of the final release a beta version is now available for testing. Please give it a try to see what’s changed, and if there are any problems we’ve missed. A final version should be out very soon.

Please note that this pre-release version should not be used on critical systems. The beta version can be downloaded from our web site:

[https://www.cendio.com/thinlinc/download/beta](https://www.cendio.com/thinlinc/download/beta)

You’ll also find the release notes there, detailing all the changes in this release.

[![cendio_thinlinc_post_31_07_b](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/thinlinc/original/1X/e495007a5ca3ae6b56653ac567862b9a0443dec9.jpeg)](https://www.cendio.com/thinlinc/download/beta)

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**Author:** ![aaron](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/aaron/32/13_2.png) [@aaron](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/aaron)\
**Post date:** [5 August 2021 19:33 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/2 "2021-08-05T19:33:02Z")

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**Author:** ![pewo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/pewo/32/46_2.png) [@pewo](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/pewo)\
**Post date:** [6 August 2021 09:31 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/3 "2021-08-06T09:31:09Z")

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Trying to install(upgrade) on centos7:

Logfile:

> resolving package ‘python3-gobject’ for installation  
> no package name ‘python3-gobject’ found  
> resolving package ‘gtk3’ for installation  
> package ‘gtk3’ is already installed (as ‘gtk3’)  
> Failure resolving packages

Package python-gobject-3.22.0 is installed, and after installation everythin works as expected.  
But it is impossible to install using ansible ☹

/Peter

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**Author:** ![martin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/martin/32/41_2.png) [@martin](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/martin)\
**Post date:** [6 August 2021 11:18 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/4 "2021-08-06T11:18:56Z")

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Hello @pewo

Thank you for your report.  
This is something we was made aware of recently, and we’re currently working on a fix for this.

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**Author:** ![samuel](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/samuel/32/335_2.png) [@samuel](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/samuel)\
**Post date:** [9 August 2021 09:00 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/5 "2021-08-09T09:00:02Z")

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@pewo the issue has now been fixed, but no new public beta version will be made available at the moment. Write an email to me at samuel@cendio.se and I’ll send you a link to a fixed version.

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**Author:** ![pewo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/pewo/32/46_2.png) [@pewo](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/pewo)\
**Post date:** [15 August 2021 13:50 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/6 "2021-08-15T13:50:21Z")

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```auto
2021-08-15 13:47:31,528: No information about which packages provide GTK+ and PyGObject on this distribution
2021-08-15 13:47:31,529: Traceback (most recent call last):
2021-08-15 13:47:31,529: File "/opt/thinlinc/sbin/../libexec/tl-setup.py", line 303, in <module>
2021-08-15 13:47:31,529: oOoO00 ( )
2021-08-15 13:47:31,529: File "/opt/thinlinc/sbin/../libexec/tl-setup.py", line 259, in oOoO00
2021-08-15 13:47:31,529: I11 = O00oOoo0 . run ( )
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/wizard.py", line 99, in run
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: return self . _run_text ( )
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/wizard.py", line 117, in _run_text
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: Oo0O0o0oO000 ( )
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/tlsetup/gtk.py", line 69, in <lambda>
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: i1iiiiIIIiIi )
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/tlsetup/pkginsthelp.py", line 61, in generic_text_installer
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: o0O0ooOoo00o = IIii . run ( )
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/tlsetup/pkginsthelp.py", line 420, in run
2021-08-15 13:47:31,530: if IiIi1I11I is None or len ( Ooo000oo0O00o ) == 0 :
2021-08-15 13:47:31,531: TypeError: object of type 'NoneType' has no len()

```

Trying to install on: openSUSE Leap 15.3 (lxc container)

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**Author:** ![pewo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/pewo/32/46_2.png) [@pewo](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/pewo)\
**Post date:** [15 August 2021 17:31 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/7 "2021-08-15T17:31:26Z")

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```auto
2021-08-15 17:28:11,776: no package named 'python3-ldap' found.
2021-08-15 17:28:11,794: Failure resolving packages.
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: Traceback (most recent call last):
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: File "/opt/thinlinc/sbin/../libexec/tl-setup.py", line 303, in <module>
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: oOoO00 ( )
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: File "/opt/thinlinc/sbin/../libexec/tl-setup.py", line 259, in oOoO00
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: I11 = O00oOoo0 . run ( )
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/wizard.py", line 99, in run
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: return self . _run_text ( )
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/wizard.py", line 117, in _run_text
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: Oo0O0o0oO000 ( )
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/tlsetup/python.py", line 59, in <lambda>
2021-08-15 17:28:11,796: oO0 )
2021-08-15 17:28:11,797: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/tlsetup/pkginsthelp.py", line 61, in generic_text_installer
2021-08-15 17:28:11,797: o0O0ooOoo00o = IIii . run ( )
2021-08-15 17:28:11,797: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/tlsetup/pkginsthelp.py", line 446, in run
2021-08-15 17:28:11,797: IiIi1I11I . unlock ( )
2021-08-15 17:28:11,797: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/packageinstaller/aptbackend.py", line 157, in unlock
2021-08-15 17:28:11,797: apt . apt_pkg . pkgsystem_unlock ( )
2021-08-15 17:28:11,797: apt_pkg.Error: E:Not locked

```

Trying to install on: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)

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**Author:** ![martin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/martin/32/41_2.png) [@martin](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/martin)\
**Post date:** [16 August 2021 08:59 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/8 "2021-08-16T08:59:07Z")

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Hello @pewo

Thank you for evaluating our beta and finding these bugs. 🐛

These two crashes were previously unknown to us and we greatly appreciate your time and effort in helping us to improve Thinlinc.

Ha a great day! 😃

/Martin

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**Author:** ![samuel](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/samuel/32/335_2.png) [@samuel](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/samuel)\
**Post date:** [19 August 2021 12:24 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/9 "2021-08-19T12:24:03Z")

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@pewo Those two crashes has now been fixed internally. Once again, thanks for the help here.

While the crashes are fixed, it’s worth noting that ThinLinc’s Setup won’t be able to automatically install all dependencies on openSUSE Leap like it can on most major modern distros. This has been the case prior to 4.13.0 and will unfortunately continue to be the case in this version. Required packages must be manually installed on openSUSE Leap.

A minor note regarding Debian 9 is that the `python3-ldap` package doesn’t seem to be available. This package is only used in ThinLinc’s `tl-ldap-certalias` and can safely be skipped.

Contact me if you wish to get your hands on an updated server build before the final release is available.

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**Author:** ![pewo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/pewo/32/46_2.png) [@pewo](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/pewo)\
**Post date:** [19 August 2021 20:15 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/10 "2021-08-19T20:15:51Z")

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> [@samuel](#):
>
> openSUSE

Is there a list of openSUSE packages which needs to be installed prior to installing thinlinc ?

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**Author:** ![samuel](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/samuel/32/335_2.png) [@samuel](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/samuel)\
**Post date:** [20 August 2021 12:19 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/11 "2021-08-20T12:19:20Z")

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Yes, all server requirements are listed in our documentation. For ThinLinc 4.13.0 beta 1, you can see the documentation here:

[https://www.cendio.com/resources/docs/tag-devel/html/requirements\_server.html](https://www.cendio.com/resources/docs/tag-devel/html/requirements_server.html)

Edit: note that this list does not list exact package names as those vary a lot between distros

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**Author:** ![samuel](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/samuel/32/335_2.png) [@samuel](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/samuel)\
**Post date:** [20 August 2021 12:57 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/12 "2021-08-20T12:57:08Z")

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Also note that ThinLinc Setup should assist you and list any missing requirements in the case it can not install them automatically. Of course, this is only useful if you run tl-setup interactively.

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**Author:** ![pewo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/pewo/32/46_2.png) [@pewo](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/pewo)\
**Post date:** [21 August 2021 15:47 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/13 "2021-08-21T15:47:22Z")

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Do you want some more on openSUSE ? 🙂

Installed some packages:

- nfs-client
- typelib-1\_0-Gtk-3\_0
- python3-gobject  
and ran tl-setup manually:

```auto
   Configuring Services
    ====================
  
    Configuring and starting ThinLinc services... Internal error
    The ThinLinc Server Setup Wizard will now terminate.

2021-08-21 09:50:06,945: Configuring PAM...
2021-08-21 09:50:06,946: Created /etc/pam.d/thinlinc symlink
2021-08-21 09:50:06,946: Setting /vsm/setup_completed...
2021-08-21 09:50:06,967: Installing services...
2021-08-21 09:50:06,967: Installing service 'vsmserver'...
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: Traceback (most recent call last):
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: File "/opt/thinlinc/sbin/../libexec/tl-setup.py", line 303, in <module>
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: oOoO00 ( )
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: File "/opt/thinlinc/sbin/../libexec/tl-setup.py", line 259, in oOoO00
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: I11 = O00oOoo0 . run ( )
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/wizard.py", line 99, in run
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: return self . _run_text ( )
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/wizard.py", line 117, in _run_text
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: Oo0O0o0oO000 ( )
2021-08-21 09:50:07,354: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/tlsetup/services.py", line 269, in i111II
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: ii1ii = iI1i ( )
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/tlsetup/services.py", line 203, in iI1i
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: if not o0 ( "vsmserver" ) :
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: File "/opt/thinlinc/modules/thinlinc/tlsetup/services.py", line 62, in o0
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: ( i1111IIi , oOo00O ) = I1i . communicate ( )
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/subprocess.py", line 863, in communicate
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: stdout, stderr = self._communicate(input, endtime, timeout)
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/subprocess.py", line 1578, in _communicate
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: self.stderr.errors)
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/subprocess.py", line 760, in _translate_newlines
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: data = data.decode(encoding, errors)
2021-08-21 09:50:07,355: UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 78: ordinal not in range(128)

```

After enabling/starting vsmserver and vsmagent everything works as expected.

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**Author:** ![wilsj](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/wilsj/32/554_2.png) [@wilsj](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/wilsj)\
**Post date:** [23 August 2021 10:41 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/14 "2021-08-23T10:41:59Z")

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Thank you for your report @pewo

Did you encounter this bug on openSUSE 15.3 running in an lxc container as you described in your previous message? Additionally, could you please provide us with the output of `locale` and `localectl list-locales` on both the host and guest OS? (or the remote machine and guest OS if you are using `ssh` instead of `lxc-attach` to access the container)

– William

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**Author:** ![pewo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/pewo/32/46_2.png) [@pewo](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/pewo)\
**Post date:** [23 August 2021 11:14 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/15 "2021-08-23T11:14:39Z")

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Yes this is an lxc-container in proxmox. There has been problemes with the locale stuff.  
If I don’t rember wrong I set LC\_ALL=C on the ansible server before running the playbook.  
I will get back when I get back home…

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**Author:** ![pewo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/pewo/32/46_2.png) [@pewo](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/pewo)\
**Post date:** [23 August 2021 19:26 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/16 "2021-08-23T19:26:15Z")

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**On the ansible server:**

```auto
[root@ansible ansible]# locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_PAPER="C"
LC_NAME="C"
LC_ADDRESS="C"
LC_TELEPHONE="C"
LC_MEASUREMENT="C"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="C"
LC_ALL=C
[root@ansible ansible]# localectl
   System Locale: n/a

       VC Keymap: n/a
      X11 Layout: n/a
[root@ansible ansible]# list-locales
-bash: list-locales: command not found

```

**On the client (opensuse using ssh)**

```auto
thinlinc-opensuse:~ # locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_PAPER="C"
LC_NAME="C"
LC_ADDRESS="C"
LC_TELEPHONE="C"
LC_MEASUREMENT="C"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="C"
LC_ALL=C
thinlinc-opensuse:~ # localectl
   System Locale: LANG=C.UTF-8
       VC Keymap: n/a
      X11 Layout: n/a
thinlinc-opensuse:~ # list-locales
-bash: list-locales: command not found

```

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**Author:** ![wilsj](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/wilsj/32/554_2.png) [@wilsj](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/wilsj)\
**Post date:** [24 August 2021 07:26 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/17 "2021-08-24T07:26:49Z")

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Thank you @pewo!

Just to be sure, did you perform any modifications to the ThinLinc source files themselves to allow `tl-setup` to start at all with your current locale settings?

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**Author:** ![pewo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/pewo/32/46_2.png) [@pewo](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/pewo)\
**Post date:** [24 August 2021 08:00 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/18 "2021-08-24T08:00:48Z")

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Nope, I have only modified my locale before starting the installation.

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**Author:** ![wilsj](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/wilsj/32/554_2.png) [@wilsj](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/wilsj)\
**Post date:** [24 August 2021 14:09 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/19 "2021-08-24T14:09:03Z")

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Sadly I have been unable to reproduce the problem which stems from `systemctl` detecting the locale encoding as UTF-8 while Python 3.6 detects it as ASCII. Nonetheless, during our attempts of reproducing the bug, we found a similar bug with identical symptoms to what you describe above. This other bug has now been fixed internally, and in turn, we strongly believe that your bug was corrected as well.

Still, we are very thankful for your testing efforts!

– William

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**Author:** ![pewo](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/community.thinlinc.com/pewo/32/46_2.png) [@pewo](https://community.thinlinc.com/u/pewo)\
**Post date:** [24 August 2021 14:32 UTC](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213/20 "2021-08-24T14:32:31Z")

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If you want, I can download your latest build and test.

[Next page](https://community.thinlinc.com/t/thinlinc-4-13-0-beta/213.md?page=2)
